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Epic CEO [Tim Sweeney] says AI disclosures like Steam's make "no sense" because AI will be involved in "nearly all" future game development

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  • B blamethepeacock@lemmy.ca

    At a very near point though, it’s likely going to be impossible to do it without AI involvement, or at the very least without proving you didn’t somehow.

    AI is being baked into almost every dev and art tool. They aren’t just talking about using ChatGPT, if your game uses a single texture or model that ever got touched by a machine learning algorithm, you’re using AI.

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    PonyOfWar
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    As long as AI doesn’t take away our hands, it’ll always be perfectly possible to draw our own art, compose our own music and write our own code. And especially in the open-source space, there’s plenty of creative software not jumping on the AI bandwagon.

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    • dan1101@lemmy.worldD dan1101@lemmy.world

      On the wrong side of nearly everything. Disappointing, he was a gaming pioneer. Now just a petty greedy corpo.

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      kiwitb@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, it’s a shame for sure.

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        Sal
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        #30

        No, it fucking won’t, Tim Sweeney. Go jump off the OG Fortnite BR map so I can default dance on you while you get sent back to the lobby.

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          artyom
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          #31

          If it’s available in “nearly all” development then you can switch the tag to say “no AI” and then I can continue discovering and buying games that don’t have that BS.

          But we all know, as does Sweeney, that that’s a lie. And also that I wouldn’t shop for games on Epic Store anyway, for reasons just like this.

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            darkkite@lemmy.ml
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            I think it should be more descriptive.

            using gpt as a stack overflow replacement should be fine or autocomplete for a simple for-loop

            using generative npcs, dialog, voice is another thing entirely

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            • W who

              PC gamers (sample size: at least 1) say they struggle to think of anything valuable that Tim Sweeney has ever said.

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              yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              He did sue Apple or something. That was good. Let them fight.

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              • D darkkite@lemmy.ml

                I think it should be more descriptive.

                using gpt as a stack overflow replacement should be fine or autocomplete for a simple for-loop

                using generative npcs, dialog, voice is another thing entirely

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                apotheotic (she/her)
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                #34

                Plenty of folks add what ai was used for in the description of their game. Works well enough.

                Personally I just avoid the games outright if ai was used at all, but yeah

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                  🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱
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                  #35

                  They make sense because we don’t want your AI shit Sweeney

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                  • N Nils

                    Then some clueless person complains that Steam dominates the market. When Epic is constantly shooting their foot.

                    People like to make informed decisions and those labels help. In proper countries even beer have content labels to say if there is rice or corn with the barley.

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                    yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    #36

                    One can be concerned by a monopoly even when there are no bad actors. Google used to be good before it was evil, and Gabe Newell will die eventually. Consolidation of market power (Audible for audiobooks, for instance, or Steam for video games) is not ideal. It is a shame Epic is such a piece of shit.

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                      shape4985@lemmy.ml
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                      #37

                      This is just one of many examples on why epic is inferior

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                        duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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                        And CEOs will be the easiest position to replace with AI. Can’t wait for the share holders to figure that out.

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                          kibiz0r@midwest.social
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                          These guys live in a bubble, huffing each others’ farts

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                          • K kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            I only play organic games.

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                            zorque@lemmy.world
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                            Indeed, I only play games generated by artificial brains grown in vats.

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                            • Y yeahiknow3@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              One can be concerned by a monopoly even when there are no bad actors. Google used to be good before it was evil, and Gabe Newell will die eventually. Consolidation of market power (Audible for audiobooks, for instance, or Steam for video games) is not ideal. It is a shame Epic is such a piece of shit.

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                              zorque@lemmy.world
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                              Indeed, but shoving Steam under the bus, instead of critiquing their “rivals” for their lack of consumer-friendly alternatives, when for the most part they’re just doing their best seems counterintuitive.

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                              • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

                                What are his intentions?

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                                zorque@lemmy.world
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                                Using AI to maximize his profits without people criticizing him for it.

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                                  oni ᓚᘏᗢ
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                                  nahh men. This is why you (Epic) are giving away games every week for free. Nobody likes you

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                                    edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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                                    Super effective slop filter you say? Sign me the fuck up!

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                                      LiveLM
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                                      Then put the disclaimer in all games? So what, not like they’re limited quantity

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                                      • J jaselle@lemmy.ca

                                        What are his intentions?

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                                        lfrith@lemmy.ca
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                                        Unreal engine drive by AI with more AI for an AI powered AI peoples AI solution. AI the new AI buzz word thrown into everything to excite AI investors. AI AI with extra AI. Money please AI.

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                                          _stranger_@lemmy.world
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                                          Never buy another Epic game again, understood!

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