I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

aria :blobcattrans:

@danirabbit How does losing your rights result in beating Trump? I don't see the logic

slotos

@danirabbit Ah, it’s Mexico paying for the wall all over again.

They aren’t against Trump, they are against him taking position they see themselves in.

David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)

But 'we will do the bad things, but slightly more slowly than the other team' has been a winning electoral strategy for decades!

This is what happens when people look at Duverger's law and don't go 'well Duverger clearly had zero understanding of game theory or psychology, and look, here are a load of counterexamples from the 20th century' and instead go 'yup, that's exactly how politics works in FPTP systems'.

Gregg Alley

@danirabbit Probably the same dudes telling Ukraine they’re going to have to give up territory.

Sjoerd Stendahl

@danirabbit I see the same phenomenon in Europe. Where self-described Social Democrats govern as full neoliberals, because they wouldn't win elections with social-democratic policies. (Not even talking actual full-on leftists)

Like if you can't govern with your own politics, what's even the point? Governing is a method to enact certain policy, not the end-goal by itself. If you're just going to enact someone else's agenda, you simply have no right of existence.

Sjoerd Stendahl

@danirabbit Honestly, I'm getting so incredibly tired of politicians cheering loudly when the opposition scores a goal under the pretense that it would have been even worse if it weren't for them.

Erik H

@danirabbit always seems to be "your" rights that need to be conceded. Never "my" rights. Just one of those funny things I guess

Danielle Foré

@SpaceCheeseWizard I saw a post that was like, every day Zohran wakes up and makes a new post that says, “hey guys I turned off the orphan crushing machine. Turns out there was just a switch for it”

refraction :verified_transgender:

@KekunPlazas @danirabbit always has been

Cruiser 🇪🇺🇺🇦🇬🇱🇨🇦🇲🇽

@danirabbit If any more elections happen, choice could be DumpfJunior versus IdiotVance ... now, choose the lesser evil.... the liberalistic capitalism is what enables Fascism #changeMyMind

SpaceCheeseWizard

@danirabbit exactly!

feld

@danirabbit you should stop having conversations with straight white men

Impeccata

@danirabbit
>I keep having this imaginary argument with the imaginary white men in my head

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@danirabbit so you want to use the wrong bathroom, and don't want illegals to be deported? it seems absurd that these are the types of issues on the forefront of some people's minds, out of everything

mk30

@danirabbit @Tattie ugh I am definitely in a bubble because I can't imagine people around me saying that kind of nonsense. But thank you for setting them straight. That is some BS.

Jess👾

@danirabbit

Want me to compromise on some of my human rights? Okay, you first.

Jess👾

Cis het white men are like 35% of the population of the US. Maybe we should start treating them like the minority they are.
@danirabbit

Daniël Franke :panheart:

@danirabbit Very much this, and to insult to this stupid injury, going closer to the right has been proven to be counterproductive because it loses people like you and I, but also doesn't gain anyone, because why vote for fash-lite, if you can just vote for full-fat fash. And yet centre-left parties everywhere (and right-wing parties like your democrats) keep doing it.

Levka

@danirabbit

Democrats? Feh. Good cop, bad cop, both cops.

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@danirabbit as if compromising on human rights has even worked for any value of worked?!

Wandering Adventure Party

I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by: