@rythur @frlan @littlealex @drwho "we might be able to live without the jets. Maybe."

Hell No, then we can fly em for fun!

@frlan @littlealex @drwho @schnedan

Wow, how did I miss the FUN?

Imagine THAT world.

You're definitely not going to space, man!

@Tamtam That has not been mine.

@littlealex Allright if it is jail broken then what happens to warranty and continuing support? LM does update signatures for ECW and other fixes. Who will get that done?

In #IT and software we never crack open a proprietary provided solution. It is because of support and SLA.

@Tamtam @drwho the propaganda and lies didn’t come from the aether, they were made by people. Leave people in a room, they’ll lie and propagandize.

@littlealex I think someone has underestimated the sheer mass of software in that jet and the implications of jailbreaking it.
Don't get me wrong, reverse engineering the software is probably a good thing, but the jailbreaking part is probably not.

@schnedan @frlan @littlealex "It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war." Not sure the origin but it rings true.

@littlealex

Jailbreaking is not enough. Access to spare parts and general maintenance in a way that bypasses US control/interference is just as crucial.

@rythur @frlan @schnedan @littlealex @drwho
The trouble with that approach is that normalising the idea of rounding up undesirables and isolating them from the population never seems to end well for the non sociopathic. Probably because the nasty bastards are just better at that sort of thing.

@littlealex
Absolutely the best news, then we can be independent of the US and Trump's "friendly" comments about being about to turn off the fighter's abilities if they choose.

In spite of "defence pacts" or treaties we never know who will be our enemy in the next war...

We fought alongside the yanks in 1917/18 then they left us high and dry in 1939/41. We looked at our "friends" through rose tinted glasses of the second half of the war BUT we must never forget they are our friends only as long as it suits them and currently they are NOT led by a friendly regimen who only make ANY friendly noises because of the inertia within their voters, (and will abandon us if they cannot rule us! So we need to be looking for folk with similar outlooks and beliefs and align ourselves there.

That sadly is not the US, it is a European Culture of ex=imperialism, and social support not found in the US even in the best of times and not currently.

@pmc @drwho in my experience it is just a few of them. And without a hierarchy and all the machinations of power, those few don't have the power to make the rest follow. In a social structure that is like a village or a group not bound to hierarchy, they have no clout That is why those few have such a need to build those opaque power structures. I don't want to convince you of anything. It's just my experience. Yours may be different.

@frlan @schnedan @littlealex

Well, drones are what's most relevant these days.