What's old is new again.
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Who can afford ground beef?
I recently started to mix in granulated soy protein into ground beef whenever I’m making burger patties. It’s way cheaper and granulated soy has a lots of vitamins. Makes it a better “alternative”
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it is. people are too stupid to read instructions.
they also do stupid stuff like think they can ‘make it go faster’ if they turn up the oven to 500 when it calls for 350, and wonder why their whole house is now filled with smoke.
they also irrational cling to bad habits because it was what their mom did or something.
Hence “if you can follow a recipe”.
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I guess the one Nile Red used in the linked video wasn’t high quality. But I mean, the pellets it made looked crumbly as hell, too.
The visible gears tell me that it’s meant for grains, not powders. They moistened the powder but didn’t use any kind of binder. It’s quality enough for a lot of jobs like chicken or rabbit feed. But if you tried to use it on hops you’d destroy so many volatiles that they could only be used for bittering American style generic beers like Budweiser.
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I believe the terminology used is “in” the belt
Yeah, I think I mixed it up with Long Island.
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But as long as it gets men to cook it’s not all bad.
Society would be improved greatly if people would stop policing the diets of others.
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Society would be improved greatly if people would stop policing the diets of others.
I think the bigger issue is people policing their own diets. We have some people addicted to convenience foods while others are so dedicated to an ideal that they are starving themselves and disguising an eating disorder as ethically or nutritionally superior.
Self policing is way more prevalent than the food police.
In this particular case we have people basically using the same idea of the billionaire wardrobe as nutrition advice. The same thing every day. No variation. Just shove the same thing in every day because cravings and nutrition blindspots don’t matter. Just shove it into the food hole. Same stuff day after day. It’s a form of self policing.
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our society is dumb.
it loves cheap gender-based attacks and blaming individual choices for failures of our society at large.
instead of taking about stagnating wages and impossible education/healthcare costs, we just mock young people for being poor. and since young men are poorer than young women, subverting traditional breadwinner gender roles, they get mocked even harder.
on the radio yesterday NPR was mocking people for not going out and spending $50 on two drinks. telling gen z that pre-gaming, nips, etc were all ‘cheating’ at life, and they should just ‘grow up’ and fork over their money they don’t have to overpriced bars and restaurants because they are ‘killing the restaurant industry’.
it’s absurd. personally I am doing quite well, I’m in a top 15% income bracket, but all around me society and my peers are constantly acting like anyone who isn’t making a top 5% income is a failure of a human being, because if you aren’t filthily rich you are clearly lazy and pathetic! I’ve even had people straight up tell me I shouldn’t have been born because my parents were not rich and couldn’t pay for my college and give me a downpayment on a house…
and i’m in my 40s. i can’t imagine how awful it is to be like 25 and in a mountain of debt and being told by society/friends/family you’re a pathetic loser for trying to climb your way out of it by eating cheap food.
Well said, I share a similar view.
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But as long as it gets men to cook it’s not all bad.
Bachelor Chow…now with flavor!
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As if cooking was so difficult… if you can follow a recipe.
There’s two sides to that.
On one hand, you’re right- someone who is motivated to learn can easily pick up cooking.
On the other hand, it’s not just ‘follow a recipe’. There’s a lot of sub skills that someone who CAN cook can easily take for granted.
Let’s say your recipe calls for one chopped onion. So the prospective cook goes to the grocery store… but there’s lots of onions. There’s white and yellow and sweet and there’s little ones and big ones. Which one to get?
And then you have to chop it. Do you peel it first? How much to peel? Discard the ends or center or use them? What’s the best way to chop it? How big of pieces do you want to end up with?None of these are DIFFICULT things to find or learn. But ‘follow a recipe’ isn’t just a one step operation for a newbie cook, there’s a lot of other stuff that has to be learned along the way.
In that regard we do our kids (pretty much all of them) a disservice- our schools teach kids that learning is a boring and unpleasant activity that involves hard mental work with little practical reward and thus should be avoided when possible. And we grade their efforts- failures are punished as disgraces, not treated as opportunities to learn. So I don’t entirely blame the dude who grows up out of that and doesn’t feel super motivated to dive into something new.
I also blame schools for not teaching basic cooking and financial literacy to kids. I was given a semester or two of ‘home economics’, the only things I learned in that class were 1. the difference between a spatula and a pancake turner, and 2. that we’d be yelled at if we didn’t dry the sink basin (even though it was about to get wet again). That curriculum needs a serious rethink.
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There’s two sides to that.
On one hand, you’re right- someone who is motivated to learn can easily pick up cooking.
On the other hand, it’s not just ‘follow a recipe’. There’s a lot of sub skills that someone who CAN cook can easily take for granted.
Let’s say your recipe calls for one chopped onion. So the prospective cook goes to the grocery store… but there’s lots of onions. There’s white and yellow and sweet and there’s little ones and big ones. Which one to get?
And then you have to chop it. Do you peel it first? How much to peel? Discard the ends or center or use them? What’s the best way to chop it? How big of pieces do you want to end up with?None of these are DIFFICULT things to find or learn. But ‘follow a recipe’ isn’t just a one step operation for a newbie cook, there’s a lot of other stuff that has to be learned along the way.
In that regard we do our kids (pretty much all of them) a disservice- our schools teach kids that learning is a boring and unpleasant activity that involves hard mental work with little practical reward and thus should be avoided when possible. And we grade their efforts- failures are punished as disgraces, not treated as opportunities to learn. So I don’t entirely blame the dude who grows up out of that and doesn’t feel super motivated to dive into something new.
I also blame schools for not teaching basic cooking and financial literacy to kids. I was given a semester or two of ‘home economics’, the only things I learned in that class were 1. the difference between a spatula and a pancake turner, and 2. that we’d be yelled at if we didn’t dry the sink basin (even though it was about to get wet again). That curriculum needs a serious rethink.
Those step can be learn the usual way: trial and error.
I’ve been cooking for years (at home) and I still learn new thing and scree the meal sometimes. But there is the fun part of cooking: the uncertainty of not knowing if this time will be great, meh or a horror.
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Those step can be learn the usual way: trial and error.
I’ve been cooking for years (at home) and I still learn new thing and scree the meal sometimes. But there is the fun part of cooking: the uncertainty of not knowing if this time will be great, meh or a horror.
the gun part of cooking: the uncertainty of not knowing if this time will be great, meh or a horror.
You have a strange idea of fun. I’m personally into the part where I get better at it each time.
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Oh, I’m all about the rice and beans.
Rice and beans are the best. I’m pretty sure I can live off them exclusively if it weren’t so filling and I didn’t have to feed people who required variation.
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That’s not kibble.
Here’s some real Human Kibble
.I was looking to see if anyone would post this. This one made me seriously naseous when I watched it.
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our society is dumb.
it loves cheap gender-based attacks and blaming individual choices for failures of our society at large.
instead of taking about stagnating wages and impossible education/healthcare costs, we just mock young people for being poor. and since young men are poorer than young women, subverting traditional breadwinner gender roles, they get mocked even harder.
on the radio yesterday NPR was mocking people for not going out and spending $50 on two drinks. telling gen z that pre-gaming, nips, etc were all ‘cheating’ at life, and they should just ‘grow up’ and fork over their money they don’t have to overpriced bars and restaurants because they are ‘killing the restaurant industry’.
it’s absurd. personally I am doing quite well, I’m in a top 15% income bracket, but all around me society and my peers are constantly acting like anyone who isn’t making a top 5% income is a failure of a human being, because if you aren’t filthily rich you are clearly lazy and pathetic! I’ve even had people straight up tell me I shouldn’t have been born because my parents were not rich and couldn’t pay for my college and give me a downpayment on a house…
and i’m in my 40s. i can’t imagine how awful it is to be like 25 and in a mountain of debt and being told by society/friends/family you’re a pathetic loser for trying to climb your way out of it by eating cheap food.
One of the good ones.
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But as long as it gets men to cook it’s not all bad.
First of all, cut the ground beef with ground pork, and save a ton of money. 50/50, or maybe 2/3 Beef, and 1/3 Pork. They’re a good combo.
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Chili: Add beans (kidney, black, red, a combo), add a 50 cent spice packet from the dollar store, and a can of diced tomatoes. Add some water, and let it simmer.
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Spaghetti Sauce: Add a jar of sauce from the store. Simmer for a while. Add other spices to taste. Or not.
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Goulash: Add pasta (not spaghetti), and diced tomatoes, and some spices. Add a little liquid. Maybe sprinkle mozzarella cheese over the top. Bake it COVERED in the oven for a while. Take the top off near the end to let the cheese get brown, and the liquid to steam off.
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Meatloaf: Take your raw beef/pork mixture, and mix it by hand with a bunch of herbs like chives, parsley, Italian herbs, garlic, salt pepper. Mix in Bread crumbs, or even torn up chunks of stale bread. Form it into one big loaf in a loaf pan, or get small individual sized loaf pans. You can even use muffin pans. Bake them at 350°F until they’re done.
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Use it to make burrito bowls, like at Chipotle. You know what you like, and you know how to make it, you’ve seen them do it a million times. You just have to learn to make rice.
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Tacos: You know how to make tacos.
6 super easy, super cheap recipes to make ground beef way better. Experiment with them, add veggies, different spices, wine, Worcestershire sauce, BBQ sauce, etc. What’s in the fridge?
You can even substitute ground turkey or ground chicken, or non-meat options. Make your buddies buy the ingredients, and you’ll cook it, and cycle through these and a few variations and experiments. You get free food, and they get good food. Make them clean up, too.
And if you meet a good woman, she’ll be super impressed that you can actually cook.
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First of all, cut the ground beef with ground pork, and save a ton of money. 50/50, or maybe 2/3 Beef, and 1/3 Pork. They’re a good combo.
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Chili: Add beans (kidney, black, red, a combo), add a 50 cent spice packet from the dollar store, and a can of diced tomatoes. Add some water, and let it simmer.
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Spaghetti Sauce: Add a jar of sauce from the store. Simmer for a while. Add other spices to taste. Or not.
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Goulash: Add pasta (not spaghetti), and diced tomatoes, and some spices. Add a little liquid. Maybe sprinkle mozzarella cheese over the top. Bake it COVERED in the oven for a while. Take the top off near the end to let the cheese get brown, and the liquid to steam off.
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Meatloaf: Take your raw beef/pork mixture, and mix it by hand with a bunch of herbs like chives, parsley, Italian herbs, garlic, salt pepper. Mix in Bread crumbs, or even torn up chunks of stale bread. Form it into one big loaf in a loaf pan, or get small individual sized loaf pans. You can even use muffin pans. Bake them at 350°F until they’re done.
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Use it to make burrito bowls, like at Chipotle. You know what you like, and you know how to make it, you’ve seen them do it a million times. You just have to learn to make rice.
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Tacos: You know how to make tacos.
6 super easy, super cheap recipes to make ground beef way better. Experiment with them, add veggies, different spices, wine, Worcestershire sauce, BBQ sauce, etc. What’s in the fridge?
You can even substitute ground turkey or ground chicken, or non-meat options. Make your buddies buy the ingredients, and you’ll cook it, and cycle through these and a few variations and experiments. You get free food, and they get good food. Make them clean up, too.
And if you meet a good woman, she’ll be super impressed that you can actually cook.
Ground pork is good for $4.49 in my area. 80/20 is $6.79. a 50/50 mix would cost costs by 16.5%. But for me the real benefit would be the added depth of flavor from the pork.
You bring a lot of good variations on this.
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Those step can be learn the usual way: trial and error.
I’ve been cooking for years (at home) and I still learn new thing and scree the meal sometimes. But there is the fun part of cooking: the uncertainty of not knowing if this time will be great, meh or a horror.
trial and error
Staying motivated here requires a positive mindset. It requires the person to say ‘it’s okay if this one isn’t good, I will learn from it and the next one will be better, and I will keep improving until I am good’.
That mindset is often not present. For someone without that positive mindset, the process is grueling- each step, each burned or bad dish becomes an F on their report card that kills their GPA, not a fun experience that needs more experimentation.
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I remember this shit being delicious when I was a kid, but a couple of years ago I bought a box on a whim to try it out and it was almost inedible.
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the gun part of cooking: the uncertainty of not knowing if this time will be great, meh or a horror.
You have a strange idea of fun. I’m personally into the part where I get better at it each time.
It’s only strange if you don’t like trying new things.
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Ground pork is good for $4.49 in my area. 80/20 is $6.79. a 50/50 mix would cost costs by 16.5%. But for me the real benefit would be the added depth of flavor from the pork.
You bring a lot of good variations on this.
80/20 is about $6.99 where I am, and I can pick up a 1 pound roll of ground pork at Aldi for around $3, so the difference is even more significant where I am.
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