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Well, this is unfortunate.

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  • GinaG Gina

    Well, this is unfortunate.

    "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

    #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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    Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

    Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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    @Gina cc @protonprivacy ....

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      @Gina cc @protonprivacy ....

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      @imacrea @Gina @protonprivacy #Jitsi is actually fairly straightforward to install and operate. It’s definitely worth considering instead of Proton Meet or one of the β€˜big tech’ products.

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      • GinaG Gina

        Well, this is unfortunate.

        "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

        #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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        Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

        Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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        @Gina @astraluma feeling insanely validated about my gut feeling about proton
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        • GinaG Gina

          Well, this is unfortunate.

          "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

          #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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          Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

          Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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          @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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          • GinaG Gina

            Well, this is unfortunate.

            "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

            #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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            Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

            Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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            @Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
            I'm glad things like these are coming to the light.

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            • J JakeKb

              @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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              @JakeKb I'd recommend #Jitsi for individual users.

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                @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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                @JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.

                Just a moment...

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                (support.signal.org)

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                • GinaG Gina

                  Well, this is unfortunate.

                  "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                  #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                  Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                  Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                  @Gina Of course they did. Because Proton is owned by a fan of fascism.

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                  • GinaG Gina

                    @JakeKb I'd recommend #Jitsi for individual users.

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                    @Gina @JakeKb Seriously, Signal. I switched from Jitsi to Signal for meetings on the project I'm working on now, because of minor technical issues, and it's worked better anyway.

                    Now, Signal might not meet your needs for this if participants don't want to disclose their Signal usernames/phone-numbers, since Signal doesn't really do "multiple accounts" like they should. But if it does work, it's great, and actually private.

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                    • ImaCreaI ImaCrea

                      @Gina cc @protonprivacy ....

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                      @imacrea @Gina Did you seriously just snitch-tag? πŸ™„

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                      • GinaG Gina

                        Well, this is unfortunate.

                        "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                        #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                        Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                        Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                        @Gina Das ist ja mal ein riesiger Schuss in den Fuß ... warum?

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                        • GinaG Gina

                          Well, this is unfortunate.

                          "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                          #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                          Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                          Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                          @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

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                            @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

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                            @privateger @Gina Proton products have always been snake oil. I think people *want* to believe they’re the good guys, for lack of easy alternatives.

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                            • GinaG Gina

                              Well, this is unfortunate.

                              "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                              #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                              Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                              Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                              @Gina disappointing, but not entirely unexpected

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                              • GinaG Gina

                                Well, this is unfortunate.

                                "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                                #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                                Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                                Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                                @Gina from 1 cloud trap (Google) to another cloud trap (Proton). ☺️

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                                  @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

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                                  @JakeKb @Gina signal

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                                  • GinaG Gina

                                    Well, this is unfortunate.

                                    "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                                    #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

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                                    Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                                    Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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                                    @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

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                                      @imacrea @Gina Did you seriously just snitch-tag? πŸ™„

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                                      @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

                                      ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

                                      @imacrea @Gina

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                                        @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

                                        ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

                                        @imacrea @Gina

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                                        @arcanechat @imacrea @Gina Sadly the fedi has no shortage of people who keep stanning for discredited "private email" and "private messenger" scammers. 😫

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                                        • ArcaneChatA ArcaneChat

                                          @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

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                                          @arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

                                          and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

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