Well, this is unfortunate.
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@Gina @JakeKb Seriously, Signal. I switched from Jitsi to Signal for meetings on the project I'm working on now, because of minor technical issues, and it's worked better anyway.
Now, Signal might not meet your needs for this if participants don't want to disclose their Signal usernames/phone-numbers, since Signal doesn't really do "multiple accounts" like they should. But if it does work, it's great, and actually private.
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@Gina cc @protonprivacy ....
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina Das ist ja mal ein riesiger Schuss in den Fuß ... warum?
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue
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@Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue
@privateger @Gina Proton products have always been snake oil. I think people *want* to believe they’re the good guys, for lack of easy alternatives.
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina disappointing, but not entirely unexpected
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina from 1 cloud trap (Google) to another cloud trap (Proton).
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@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?
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@dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):
ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!
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@dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):
ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!
@arcanechat @imacrea @Gina Sadly the fedi has no shortage of people who keep stanning for discredited "private email" and "private messenger" scammers.
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@Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?
@arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries
and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)
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@arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries
and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)
@caitp to be honest, I don't think there is a solution for streaming of video to huge groups of people (ex. twitch-like)
but if it is just a meeting with a few people maybe some p2p calls like using webrtc could work, it would be all end-to-end encrypted and without needing to trust any company and also near zero server costs for them
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@regendans @JakeKb @Gina
Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina
No bueno.
This stinks. -
@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
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Well, this is unfortunate.
"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."
#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource
Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was
Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.
Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)
@Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this
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@Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this
@danvolchek no idea.
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@Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
I'm glad things like these are coming to the light.__Miguel_ Yes, their CEO’s behaviour has been a significant red flag, and I think we’re going to continue finding out that they’ve been lying for years as they’ve moved to comply in advance on this wave of anti-privacy bills being tossed around the world.
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