Skip to content
0
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Home
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (Sketchy)
  • No Skin
Collapse

Wandering Adventure Party

  1. Home
  2. World
  3. Well, this is unfortunate.

Well, this is unfortunate.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved World
protonprotonmaildigitalsovereigopensource
29 Posts 20 Posters 4 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • GinaG Gina

    Well, this is unfortunate.

    "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

    #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

    Link Preview Image
    Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

    Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

    favicon

    Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

    Simon DückertS This user is from outside of this forum
    Simon DückertS This user is from outside of this forum
    Simon Dückert
    wrote last edited by
    #13

    @Gina Das ist ja mal ein riesiger Schuss in den Fuß ... warum?

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • GinaG Gina

      Well, this is unfortunate.

      "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

      #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

      Link Preview Image
      Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

      Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

      favicon

      Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

      Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:P This user is from outside of this forum
      Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:P This user is from outside of this forum
      Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:
      wrote last edited by
      #14

      @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

      PatrickP 1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:P Latte macchiato :blobcoffee: :ablobcat_longlong:

        @Gina@fosstodon.org will people ever learn proton is a massive fed honeypot or will this continue

        PatrickP This user is from outside of this forum
        PatrickP This user is from outside of this forum
        Patrick
        wrote last edited by
        #15

        @privateger @Gina Proton products have always been snake oil. I think people *want* to believe they’re the good guys, for lack of easy alternatives.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • GinaG Gina

          Well, this is unfortunate.

          "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

          #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

          Link Preview Image
          Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

          Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

          favicon

          Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

          GabsG This user is from outside of this forum
          GabsG This user is from outside of this forum
          Gabs
          wrote last edited by
          #16

          @Gina disappointing, but not entirely unexpected

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • GinaG Gina

            Well, this is unfortunate.

            "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

            #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

            Link Preview Image
            Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

            Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

            favicon

            Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

            ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
            ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
            ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
            wrote last edited by
            #17

            @Gina from 1 cloud trap (Google) to another cloud trap (Proton). ☺️

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • J JakeKb

              @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

              ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
              ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
              ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
              wrote last edited by
              #18

              @JakeKb @Gina signal

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • GinaG Gina

                Well, this is unfortunate.

                "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                Link Preview Image
                Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

                favicon

                Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

                ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                ArcaneChat
                wrote last edited by
                #19

                @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

                caitpC 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • CassandrichD Cassandrich

                  @imacrea @Gina Did you seriously just snitch-tag? 🙄

                  ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                  ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                  ArcaneChat
                  wrote last edited by
                  #20

                  @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

                  ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

                  @imacrea @Gina

                  CassandrichD 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • ArcaneChatA ArcaneChat

                    @dalias coming soon (AGAIN!!):

                    ProtonMail official announcement: due to lack of resources we will be discontinuing our account here (not because you all are too woke and expose bad publicity about us) so please follow us on X and Reddit from now on to keep up to date, ok??? and remember: we really care about your privacy!

                    @imacrea @Gina

                    CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                    CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Cassandrich
                    wrote last edited by
                    #21

                    @arcanechat @imacrea @Gina Sadly the fedi has no shortage of people who keep stanning for discredited "private email" and "private messenger" scammers. 😫

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • ArcaneChatA ArcaneChat

                      @Gina I can't believe in 2026 people still trust Proton, can't people realize by now it is really a bad idea to put your trust in a centralized provider?

                      caitpC This user is from outside of this forum
                      caitpC This user is from outside of this forum
                      caitp
                      wrote last edited by
                      #22

                      @arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

                      and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

                      ArcaneChatA 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • caitpC caitp

                        @arcanechat @Gina I still don't know what the realistic alternative is for electronic communications. it sucks... but without worldwide regulations, it's just always going to find ways to suck for people outside the inner circle of beneficiaries

                        and I very much want to pay a company that can avoid that, but... they are competing with companies with near monopolies, so how _can_ they compete? (and even the regulations would have to be like, morally guided and principled, but they wouldn't be...)

                        ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                        ArcaneChatA This user is from outside of this forum
                        ArcaneChat
                        wrote last edited by
                        #23

                        @caitp to be honest, I don't think there is a solution for streaming of video to huge groups of people (ex. twitch-like)

                        but if it is just a meeting with a few people maybe some p2p calls like using webrtc could work, it would be all end-to-end encrypted and without needing to trust any company and also near zero server costs for them

                        @Gina

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • RegendansR Regendans

                          @JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.

                          Just a moment...

                          favicon

                          (support.signal.org)

                          Lucas BentleyB This user is from outside of this forum
                          Lucas BentleyB This user is from outside of this forum
                          Lucas Bentley
                          wrote last edited by
                          #24

                          @regendans @JakeKb @Gina
                          Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.

                          I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • GinaG Gina

                            Well, this is unfortunate.

                            "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                            #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                            Link Preview Image
                            Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                            Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

                            favicon

                            Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

                            Lucas BentleyB This user is from outside of this forum
                            Lucas BentleyB This user is from outside of this forum
                            Lucas Bentley
                            wrote last edited by
                            #25

                            @Gina
                            No bueno.
                            This stinks.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • J JakeKb

                              @Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?

                              BleistifterinB This user is from outside of this forum
                              BleistifterinB This user is from outside of this forum
                              Bleistifterin
                              wrote last edited by
                              #26

                              @JakeKb @Gina we use BigBlueButton. It sometimes glitches, but usually it works fine

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • GinaG Gina

                                Well, this is unfortunate.

                                "Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

                                #proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

                                Link Preview Image
                                Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

                                Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

                                favicon

                                Sam Bent (www.sambent.com)

                                Dan 🌻D This user is from outside of this forum
                                Dan 🌻D This user is from outside of this forum
                                Dan 🌻
                                wrote last edited by
                                #27

                                @Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this

                                GinaG 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • Dan 🌻D Dan 🌻

                                  @Gina is this blog format some sort of template? or ai slop? i feel like i've seen the same UI before, paired with incredibly slop writing a few times before. It *feels* like an llm wrote this

                                  GinaG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  GinaG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Gina
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #28

                                  @danvolchek no idea.

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • N __Miguel_

                                    @Gina Ever since their CEO's position a few years ago it has been clear Proton is not really aligned with consumers' interests.
                                    I'm glad things like these are coming to the light.

                                    KichaeK Online
                                    KichaeK Online
                                    Kichae
                                    Forum Master
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #29

                                    __Miguel_ Yes, their CEO’s behaviour has been a significant red flag, and I think we’re going to continue finding out that they’ve been lying for years as they’ve moved to comply in advance on this wave of anti-privacy bills being tossed around the world.

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    1
                                    5
                                    • [object Object]Z [object Object] shared this topic

                                    Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                    Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                    With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                    Register Login
                                    Reply
                                    • Reply as topic
                                    Log in to reply
                                    • Oldest to Newest
                                    • Newest to Oldest
                                    • Most Votes


                                    • Login

                                    • Login or register to search.
                                    Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                    • First post
                                      Last post