Palworld studio Pocketpair says its new publishing division won't handle games that use generative AI: 'We don't believe in it'
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You seem to imply we can only use the raw output of the LLm but thatās not true. We can add some deterministic safeguards afterwards to reduce hallucinations and increase relevancy. For example if you use an LLM to generate SQL, you can verify that the answer respects the data schemas and the relationship graph. Thatās a pretty hot subject right now, I donāt see why it couldnāt be done for video game dialogues.
Indeed, I also agree that the consumption of resources it requires may not be worth the output.If you could define a formal schema for what appropriate dialogue options would be you could just pick from it randomly, no need for the AI
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Isnāt that Garfieldās owner
Thatās Jon Arbuckle
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Pocketpair Publishing boss John Buckley
Any relation to loss guy?
Weāre all cousins, so probably?
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āWe might deal in derivative IP, but itās our derivative IP!ā
To be fair Nintendo was heavily inspired by other artists work when designing Pokemon.
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To be fair Nintendo was heavily inspired by other artists work when designing Pokemon.
Nintendo wasnāt āinspiredā by shit. They made an ice cream cone a PokĆ©mon. Keys on a ring? PokĆ©mon. 8 varieties of elemental flavored dog? Check. Oh hey cool look a 2d image on a computer oh wait itās actually a PokĆ©mon. Dog? Cat? Snake? Bird? Horse? All PokĆ©mon. IMO nothing in PokĆ©mon is actually āinspiredā, only ripped off.
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Palworld studio Pocketpair says its new publishing division won't handle games that use generative AI: 'We don't believe in it'
Pocketpair Publishing boss John Buckley says we're already starting to see a flood of 'really low-quality, AI-made games' on Steam and other storefronts.
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Butā¦ The developers of Palworld made a game featuring AI generated images.
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Nintendo wasnāt āinspiredā by shit. They made an ice cream cone a PokĆ©mon. Keys on a ring? PokĆ©mon. 8 varieties of elemental flavored dog? Check. Oh hey cool look a 2d image on a computer oh wait itās actually a PokĆ©mon. Dog? Cat? Snake? Bird? Horse? All PokĆ©mon. IMO nothing in PokĆ©mon is actually āinspiredā, only ripped off.
They made Goth Mommy GF into a pokemon with āGothitaā
How many sentient clouds are also pokemon? Or that one thatās literally just a balloon?
I swear pokemon ran out of creativity by gen 3 - and Iām not even a pokemon fan.
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Nintendo wasnāt āinspiredā by shit. They made an ice cream cone a PokĆ©mon. Keys on a ring? PokĆ©mon. 8 varieties of elemental flavored dog? Check. Oh hey cool look a 2d image on a computer oh wait itās actually a PokĆ©mon. Dog? Cat? Snake? Bird? Horse? All PokĆ©mon. IMO nothing in PokĆ©mon is actually āinspiredā, only ripped off.
Im casually suggesting they were āinspiredā by other artists work. Many of the Red/Blue era were rip offs.
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Butā¦ The developers of Palworld made a game featuring AI generated images.
Companies can change their mind about stuff like this.
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If you could define a formal schema for what appropriate dialogue options would be you could just pick from it randomly, no need for the AI
It would not be a fully determining schema that could apply to random outputs, I would guess this is impossible for natural language, and if it is possible, then it may as well be used for procedural generation. It would be just enough to make an LLM output be good enough. It doesnāt need to be perfect because human output is not perfect either.
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Itās been really nice to be able to type a plain question (in any language) into Google and receive a concise answer before scrolling down to confirm with more trustworthy sources. In particular itās been very good for solving annoyances with UI options by directing me to exactly what Iām looking for. A traditional search will often conflate my search with synonyms (even when using quotations, which is some bullshit), and even ignore what language my search was in.
e: Also you should be careful when clicking on any links provided by an LLM because they can accidentally send you phishing links.
SEO destroyed googleās usefulness. AI is a cope for that but AI kills the incentives for very thing it depends on for itās usefulness, user generated content.
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As an amateur game dev, I believe AI will crash out for the public before it becomes truly useful for programming. Iāve heard colleagues try to use AI , but it often just creates more work. When the AI doesnāt know the answer, which is often. it makes something up, leading to errors, crashes, or hidden issues like memory leaks. Iād rather write the code correctly from the start and understand how it works, than spend hours hunting down problems in AI-generated code, only to never find the issue. Full disclosure I use Chatgpt to edit my dialogue as my English is not great.
I donāt think AI code generation is going to be a revolution anytime soon, but AI voice and AI image generation is likely going to stay.
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The difference between āgenerative AIā and āprocedural generationā cannot be meaningfully nailed down.
Procedural generation is theoretically deterministic, but itās a fairly minor distinction.
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Companies can change their mind about stuff like this.
Yes. Except theyāre still selling that game.
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Yes. Except theyāre still selling that game.
Yeah because they spent money making it. If you spend millions of dollars making a video game, you canāt just shut it down and refund every order of it without putting your studio in serious jeopardy financially. Thatās not an option for them, so the best they can do is just not rely on AI anymore. Clearly they tried it and learned that it actually sucks ass.
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It would not be a fully determining schema that could apply to random outputs, I would guess this is impossible for natural language, and if it is possible, then it may as well be used for procedural generation. It would be just enough to make an LLM output be good enough. It doesnāt need to be perfect because human output is not perfect either.
Yeah thatās kind of my point. Thatās a vastly more complicated thing than SQL.
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Nintendo wasnāt āinspiredā by shit. They made an ice cream cone a PokĆ©mon. Keys on a ring? PokĆ©mon. 8 varieties of elemental flavored dog? Check. Oh hey cool look a 2d image on a computer oh wait itās actually a PokĆ©mon. Dog? Cat? Snake? Bird? Horse? All PokĆ©mon. IMO nothing in PokĆ©mon is actually āinspiredā, only ripped off.
you forgot rock.
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Yeah thatās kind of my point. Thatās a vastly more complicated thing than SQL.
But it also doesnāt need to be as exact as SQL, which removes some kind of complexity.
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Yeah because they spent money making it. If you spend millions of dollars making a video game, you canāt just shut it down and refund every order of it without putting your studio in serious jeopardy financially. Thatās not an option for them, so the best they can do is just not rely on AI anymore. Clearly they tried it and learned that it actually sucks ass.
Itās a small game. They have Palworld to rake in the big bucks, so if their stance on AI use has changed, they can just remove that game.
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Palworld studio Pocketpair says its new publishing division won't handle games that use generative AI: 'We don't believe in it'
Pocketpair Publishing boss John Buckley says we're already starting to see a flood of 'really low-quality, AI-made games' on Steam and other storefronts.
PC Gamer (www.pcgamer.com)
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