I am Mexican Canadian.

Mexico hasn’t forgotten about all the stolen territory. Yes, they call it sale and secession and whatever, it was stolen.

If I put a gun to your head and ask you to sell me a property you have for $10. You are going to do it. I’d say I purchased it. I’m sure you’ll say I stole it.

So, why do disagree?

Because of the wise reflection of “first they came for the…”

Well. If we don’t stand against them taking over Venezuela, who is going to stand with us when they try to take over us (Greenland, Canada, Mexico and the rest)

The manifest Destiny is no joke.

and then went home.

That’s part of the problem.

Effective protesting isn’t a “one and done” thing.

And you think action will be easier if you wait longer? You are wrong, things are only going to get more difficult.

Facism is a cancer. You cant ignore it or reason with it, or hope it goes away. The only option is to take the terrible medicine and fight, now.

Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

We know it’s not a joke. The three most populated cities in the US are in deep blue states and full of people who don’t want this. For everyone in those cities, it would take days and hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to travel to the White House. Most of us are behind on rent, have had our cars repossessed, don’t make a living wage, don’t have healthcare, and have unsustainable credit card debt.

Outside of a very vocal minority, the American people are overwhelmingly united around the fact that we don’t want this to happen.

However, the American people aren’t in control of the American government, and the American government are overwhelmingly united around corporate interests.

The comment said nothing about the ban having to be this instant. They said to stop all trade. That could just as well mean, take the necessary steps to stop all trade as feasibly fast as possible. How long do you think it would take for China to be able to export computer hardware directly to the EU if the EU said tomorrow “As soon as you can supply hardware, we will stop all trade with USA”? China is the champion of accelerated manufacturing, they’d be supplying us in a couple of months.

There already is open source software solution for by FAR most software that is used. Most companies don’t actually need proprietary software from USA, they can switch very quickly, especially if they get a deadline in a month to switch everything away from Linux, 'cause then the profits are on the line.

We need socialism

Well, yeah. It will be perhaps not easier if you wait for a mass of discontent or an inciting incident, but it will be winnable. You can’t fight alone. Yes, it’s going to be a fight and a challenge, but we have to convince the masses that the status quo is not normal any more, and convince the notoriously easy going and anti violent crowd to understand that violence is necessary. If you fight too early, you’ll get all the centrists against you as well - and we can’t have a two front fight.

Groups of like minded individuals are already beginning to form. Those will naturally coalesce when the time is right.

What immediate, terrible medicine do you propose? I’m legitimately interested.

Some cancers are terminal/inoperable…

We need socialism

What other options do you propose?

I’m aware the midterms aren’t failsafe, but they’re the closest thing to hope that we have.

And if people make the same mistake as last time by boycotting the vote, then their defeatism will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

Yeah, well, capitalism’s propaganda is working boat loads better, hence so many idiots defending it

Fwiw, I think we should have a capitalist system with hard caps on net Worth. Anything over 10M goes straight to taxes. Nobody should be able to get more than X % of all the votes, ever. Govt regulates legislation on products, safety, etc, for consumers.

This way we get the best of capitalism (free trade, basically), nobody gets too rich, nobody gets too powerful, and the government has a huge income for a giant socialist system with free healthcare, free education, free transportation, free housing, ubi, you name it.

Governments can sponsor independent journalism financing institutions that can in turn finance real independent journalism that can keep everyone honest

If nobody is too powerful, if everyone is honest and well informed, nobody can start a war over bullshit reasons anymore

Thats the thing, I dont know what the medicine should be.

I feel like we are waiting either for an incident like you suggest, or a leader who is able to rally the un-interested, un-motivated, and burned out masses. The left does not have their super star yet.

Yeah, well, capitalism’s propaganda is working boat loads better, hence so many idiots defending it

Fwiw, I think we should have a capitalist system with hard caps on net Worth. Anything over 10M goes straight to taxes. Nobody should be able to get more than X % of all the votes, ever. Govt regulates legislation on products, safety, etc, for consumers.

This way we get the best of capitalism (free trade, basically), nobody gets too rich, nobody gets too powerful, and the government has a huge income for a giant socialist system with free healthcare, free education, free transportation, free housing, ubi, you name it.

Governments can sponsor independent journalism financing institutions that can in turn finance real independent journalism that can keep everyone honest

If nobody is too powerful, if everyone is honest and well informed, nobody can start a war over bullshit reasons anymore

Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.

You don’t get it.

The people posting shit like that WANT TO KILL.

They are bloodthirsty. They are warmongers. They want a bodycount.

There’s nothing more to realize about the joke because it’s not a joke.

America is ruled by murderers.