We know it’s not a joke. The three most populated cities in the US are in deep blue states and full of people who don’t want this. For everyone in those cities, it would take days and hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to travel to the White House. Most of us are behind on rent, have had our cars repossessed, don’t make a living wage, don’t have healthcare, and have unsustainable credit card debt.

Outside of a very vocal minority, the American people are overwhelmingly united around the fact that we don’t want this to happen.

However, the American people aren’t in control of the American government, and the American government are overwhelmingly united around corporate interests.

The comment said nothing about the ban having to be this instant. They said to stop all trade. That could just as well mean, take the necessary steps to stop all trade as feasibly fast as possible. How long do you think it would take for China to be able to export computer hardware directly to the EU if the EU said tomorrow “As soon as you can supply hardware, we will stop all trade with USA”? China is the champion of accelerated manufacturing, they’d be supplying us in a couple of months.

There already is open source software solution for by FAR most software that is used. Most companies don’t actually need proprietary software from USA, they can switch very quickly, especially if they get a deadline in a month to switch everything away from Linux, 'cause then the profits are on the line.

We need socialism

Well, yeah. It will be perhaps not easier if you wait for a mass of discontent or an inciting incident, but it will be winnable. You can’t fight alone. Yes, it’s going to be a fight and a challenge, but we have to convince the masses that the status quo is not normal any more, and convince the notoriously easy going and anti violent crowd to understand that violence is necessary. If you fight too early, you’ll get all the centrists against you as well - and we can’t have a two front fight.

Groups of like minded individuals are already beginning to form. Those will naturally coalesce when the time is right.

What immediate, terrible medicine do you propose? I’m legitimately interested.

Some cancers are terminal/inoperable…

We need socialism

What other options do you propose?

I’m aware the midterms aren’t failsafe, but they’re the closest thing to hope that we have.

And if people make the same mistake as last time by boycotting the vote, then their defeatism will be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

Yeah, well, capitalism’s propaganda is working boat loads better, hence so many idiots defending it

Fwiw, I think we should have a capitalist system with hard caps on net Worth. Anything over 10M goes straight to taxes. Nobody should be able to get more than X % of all the votes, ever. Govt regulates legislation on products, safety, etc, for consumers.

This way we get the best of capitalism (free trade, basically), nobody gets too rich, nobody gets too powerful, and the government has a huge income for a giant socialist system with free healthcare, free education, free transportation, free housing, ubi, you name it.

Governments can sponsor independent journalism financing institutions that can in turn finance real independent journalism that can keep everyone honest

If nobody is too powerful, if everyone is honest and well informed, nobody can start a war over bullshit reasons anymore

Thats the thing, I dont know what the medicine should be.

I feel like we are waiting either for an incident like you suggest, or a leader who is able to rally the un-interested, un-motivated, and burned out masses. The left does not have their super star yet.

Yeah, well, capitalism’s propaganda is working boat loads better, hence so many idiots defending it

Fwiw, I think we should have a capitalist system with hard caps on net Worth. Anything over 10M goes straight to taxes. Nobody should be able to get more than X % of all the votes, ever. Govt regulates legislation on products, safety, etc, for consumers.

This way we get the best of capitalism (free trade, basically), nobody gets too rich, nobody gets too powerful, and the government has a huge income for a giant socialist system with free healthcare, free education, free transportation, free housing, ubi, you name it.

Governments can sponsor independent journalism financing institutions that can in turn finance real independent journalism that can keep everyone honest

If nobody is too powerful, if everyone is honest and well informed, nobody can start a war over bullshit reasons anymore

Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

Poland was the last step, which is what started WWII. I think you mean Czechoslovakia (or maybe the Rhineland) was the first step.

You don’t get it.

The people posting shit like that WANT TO KILL.

They are bloodthirsty. They are warmongers. They want a bodycount.

There’s nothing more to realize about the joke because it’s not a joke.

America is ruled by murderers.

Miller is the ghoul behind a lot of the worst of what the government is doing. Trump is bad, but he’s an idiot. Miller knows what he’s doing and has a plan.

and no single person can solve the problem.

That’s a big part of their problem. They keep thinking about individual actions instead of coming together and acting as a group toward a common goal.

I agree. And that is why the US is done for. No one is willing to stay until we get what we want… and want is subjective.

Best to pack up and move to another country if they can.

How do you strike if you’re already unemployed? So many people are already losing their jobs to automation and AI.

Also, one of the most insidious aspects of american healthcare is that by tying it to employment, people become utterly dependent on their employers. They lose a lot of leverage.

How do you risk your livelihood when you have cancer or diabetes and your corporate benefits are the only way you can afford healthcare?

Not to mention, most of the american workforce is not unionized. How do you organize a strike without workers unions?

Plus, there is a precedent in recent history where congress can pass legislation making it illegal for workers to continue a strike. How that doesn’t qualify as forced labor, is beyond me.

So you see, there are many roadblocks to having an effective strike in the US, especially when the american system has been designed over the decades and centuries specifically to advance and protect the interests of the wealthy elite.

It’s not about making excuses, it’s about acknowledging the practical realities that get in the way of progress.