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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • jmjmJ jmjm

    @briankrebs I wonder how Europe will choose to implement reciprocity? Maybe an anal probe?

    Hans van ZijstH This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #286
    @jmjm I hope we won't stoop to MAGA level. The problem is not in US travellers, the problem is a fascist administration.

    I'd say travel bans bans for Orange, his cabinet, his family, his techbros and everybody otherwise connected to him.
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    • EarthlingE Earthling

      @briankrebs
      “Government agencies will likely need to get deep-level access to all social media platforms to gather social media intelligence. Of course they could scrape the content for each social media account for each visitor’s application. It’s more likely they’ll seek direct access to the platforms’ databases, or use third-party firms who can do this for them.”

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      wrote last edited by
      #287

      @earthlingusa @briankrebs Are you for real? Did you learn nothing from Ed Snowden? They are already in there...

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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        wrote last edited by
        #288

        @briankrebs
        this starts to be bad as something.

        i take my guesswork. when this or similar happens to domestic citizens. i put this as serious warning.

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

          Link Preview Image
          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

          favicon

          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

          Pavel MachekP This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #289
          @briankrebs Forced to use mobile phone app? Like... mobile phone is now a requirement to enter US? Mobile phone capable of running that app? Not good. Asking for personal data of other people? That should not be legal. Nor should be the other stuff :-(.
          Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦M 1 Reply Last reply
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          • gotofritzG gotofritz

            @briankrebs

            What's scary is that the Dems have a very poor record when it comes to undoing some of the evil stuff by the Republicans (Patriot Act anyone?)

            I reckon whatever happens with the next elections, this is here to stay

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            wrote last edited by
            #290

            @gotofritz @briankrebs

            "There is no fate, but what we make."

            Do-nothing members of Congress can still be booted from their sinecures.

            Vote for the fighters, ditch the fascists & do-nothings.

            The "both-sides" defeatist narratives are counterproductive.

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

              "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

              "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

              PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

              -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

              -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
              ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
              -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
              -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
              -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
              -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
              -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

              Link Preview Image
              The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

              Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

              favicon

              Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

              The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
              must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

              Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

              Jonas 🇩🇰 🇬🇱J This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #291

              @briankrebs Glad I'm not going to the #fifa propaganda show.

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              • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

                @briankrebs my social media from the past 10 minutes would get me banned.

                joostetoJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                joosteto
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                #292

                @mlevison @briankrebs
                Just having a mastodon account will get you banned instantly.

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                • NiniN Nini

                  @briankrebs Data privacy aside, how would I know that this info wouldn't just find its way out onto the dark web for sale? I already gave up everything including my arsehole print to these fucks so that's one party who shouldn't have it already but that shouldn't mean I want it distributed more widely. Feels deeply unworkable for essentially having every bit of info that a fraudster could destroy my life with.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #293

                  @nini @briankrebs A number of Elon Musk's DOGE staff is still active in many part of the US government. Based on some news reports, DOGE also installed a lof of backdoors in the government IT infrastructure. You should assume that all the personal data you surrender to the US government will end up in Musk's data centres.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                    Yet another Josh :donor:C This user is from outside of this forum
                    Yet another Josh :donor:
                    wrote last edited by
                    #294

                    @briankrebs

                    Reminder that US Citizenship, to get rid of, is a COST of $2,350

                    This citizenship is literally a debt hole. Its a "pay to exit", if you have a ticket to another country.

                    If not, you're trapped here.

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                    Technical Difficulties

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                    (common.usembassy.gov)

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                      favicon

                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      Toni Aittoniemi
                      wrote last edited by
                      #295

                      @briankrebs Yeah, like I was ever submitting this data to flicking nazis. In Finland we have a saying: ”You can keep your forklift!” 😃

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                      • Pavel MachekP Pavel Machek
                        @briankrebs Forced to use mobile phone app? Like... mobile phone is now a requirement to enter US? Mobile phone capable of running that app? Not good. Asking for personal data of other people? That should not be legal. Nor should be the other stuff :-(.
                        Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦M This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #296

                        @pavel @briankrebs

                        #RyanAir just announced me that I HAVE to install their app to have access to my boarding pass. No web version of the app available.

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                        Digital Boarding Pass

                        Book direct at the official Ryanair.com website to guarantee that you get the best prices on Ryanair's cheap flights.

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                        (www.ryanair.com)

                        Shame! Shame!

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                        • Eric PhelpsE Eric Phelps

                          @rbos I pre-generated a thousand email addresses, registered them with my email provider, and loaded them into my password manager. They're ready to go for new accounts with a simple rename.

                          The whole "tagging" thing with Gmail is one of those theoretical things I know about but have never done.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #297

                          @ericphelps
                          That is a delightfully over-engineered solution and it definitely works well. Tagged addresses are going to be inferior but much simpler. Also spammers would be looking for tagged addresses.

                          As to how, just add +string to the username of a Gmail address. It'll go to your main box. Easy to filter if needed.

                          Many email servers support that syntax. Others like qmail use -string.

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                            favicon

                            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #298

                            @briankrebs BTW, “yesterday” means Dec. 10, 2025. How come this took so long to surface?

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                            • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

                              @bartt @faraiwe @briankrebs well they officially opened mine. Waiting for the blowback.

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                              wrote last edited by
                              #299

                              @farbel @bartt @briankrebs suspense is killing me

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                              • FaraiweF Faraiwe

                                @farbel @bartt @briankrebs suspense is killing me

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #300

                                @faraiwe @bartt @briankrebs I don't plan to go back to the US til June. A lot can happen before then.

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                                • 🇨🇦 Little-kO 🇨🇦 Little-k

                                  @briankrebs
                                  For those saying, "Just don't travel to the US", there people like my relatives that must to travel to the US for work. They have no choice.
                                  It's my hope that their head office helps them by not requiring them to travel there.

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #301

                                  @briankrebs
                                  If their job is forcing them to travel to a fascist state then they need to find a new job.

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                                  • doncishD doncish

                                    @briankrebs I wouldn't travel there if someone paid me for it. Even if my employer requested I travel to the US, I wouldn't do it. Nobody can make me provide that kind of private data to go on a business trip, nope.

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #302

                                    @doncish yes, I already refused to go to Las Vegas. Not even if I get paid for it on a free trip. No, thanks.

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                                    • Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦M Matěj Cepl 🇪🇺 🇨🇿 🇺🇦

                                      @pavel @briankrebs

                                      #RyanAir just announced me that I HAVE to install their app to have access to my boarding pass. No web version of the app available.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Digital Boarding Pass

                                      Book direct at the official Ryanair.com website to guarantee that you get the best prices on Ryanair's cheap flights.

                                      favicon

                                      (www.ryanair.com)

                                      Shame! Shame!

                                      Pavel MachekP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #303
                                      @mcepl @briankrebs That page has steps for "don't have a smartphone". But yes, still a shame and reason to avoid ryanair.
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                                      • mirabilosM mirabilos

                                        @briankrebs @lazyb0y @Wyatt_H_Knott @wendinoakland @zm in the case of the USA, literally so

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #304

                                        @mirabilos

                                        Donald Trump's DNA is 50% oompa lumpa.

                                        @briankrebs @lazyb0y @Wyatt_H_Knott @wendinoakland @zm

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                                        • arrakeen_urbaniteA arrakeen_urbanite

                                          @briankrebs If this happens, the EU should impose similar restrictions on U.S. citizen travelers.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #305

                                          @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs not all, start by declaring ICE a terror organisation and refusing to allow anyone who works for it to travel, and then target members of the Administration specifically.

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