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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • Jim FlanaganJ Jim Flanagan

    @AAKL @briankrebs This could put TFGs FIFA peace prize in jeopardy

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    wrote last edited by
    #70

    @jimfl @briankrebs Oh, we wouldn't want that, would we? The tantrum that follows would be catastrophic.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

      Mariya DelanoM This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #71

      @briankrebs and coupled with immigration law having provisions that classify any kind of omission on an immigration, visa, or entry form as potential immigration fraud and grounds to disqualify the individual from ANY future status = anybody that forgets one email address or social media account they’ve had years ago is suddenly easily turned into an “illegal immigrant” and passed into the jurisdiction of ICE for deportation and potentially a permanent life ban from the US.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

        "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

        "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

        PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

        -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

        -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
        ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
        -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
        -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
        -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
        -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
        -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

        Link Preview Image
        The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

        Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

        favicon

        Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

        The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
        must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

        Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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        wrote last edited by
        #72

        @briankrebs

        Ha. Fuck America. lol

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

          Link Preview Image
          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

          favicon

          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

          Kyle Memoir 🍉F This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #73

          @briankrebs

          Why don't they just come out and say 'visitors to USA not welcome'?

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          • Oliver JensenO Oliver Jensen

            @briankrebs

            as someone who has been using unique email addresses for every service, I look forward to submitting several hundred addresses.

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            wrote last edited by
            #74

            @ojensen @briankrebs
            That’s what I thought!

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            • Derick RethansD Derick Rethans

              @ojensen @briankrebs Do you even remember them all? I certainly don't.

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              wrote last edited by
              #75

              @derickr @briankrebs most of them, since they're in a big list in my email provider. Doubtless there's a few that I've deleted, though, so to be safe I'll need to add a bunch of maybes to the list.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                Link Preview Image
                The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                favicon

                Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

                RealGene ☣️R This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #76

                @briankrebs
                Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?

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                • Gero SteinT Gero Stein

                  @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.

                  If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #77

                  @tdr @independentpen Besides, tit-for-tat international relations rarely works.

                  If the EU should do anything in response to something like this, make it a reminder that sharing that information without the explicit and informed consent of the data subject is strictly prohibited under the GDPR. And that that includes a third country resident sharing such data as relates to EU data subjects.

                  @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                    "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                    "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                    PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                    -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                    -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                    ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                    -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                    -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                    -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                    -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                    -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                    Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                    favicon

                    Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                    The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                    must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                    Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #78

                    @briankrebs the 2028 Olympics in LA will be fun. No visitors and no athletes from outside.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                      favicon

                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #79

                      @briankrebs

                      They are only forced if they continue to wanting to travel to the US.

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                      • arrakeen_urbaniteA arrakeen_urbanite

                        @briankrebs If this happens, the EU should impose similar restrictions on U.S. citizen travelers.

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #80

                        @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs

                        only on politicians

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                        • AAKLA AAKL

                          @briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #81

                          @AAKL @briankrebs

                          We discussed that today – there are two other countries involved, we just have to move the US games north or south...

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                          • AAKLA AAKL

                            @jimfl @briankrebs Oh, we wouldn't want that, would we? The tantrum that follows would be catastrophic.

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #82

                            @AAKL @briankrebs Ketchup everywhere

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                            • Gero SteinT Gero Stein

                              @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.

                              If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.

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                              #83

                              @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs This. Cubed.

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                              • RealGene ☣️R RealGene ☣️

                                @briankrebs
                                Why didn't they just require everyone get chipped also?

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                                wrote last edited by
                                #84

                                @RealGene guess a tattoo with number will he the next proposal
                                @briankrebs

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                  "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                  "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                  PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                  -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                  -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                  ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                  -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                  -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                  -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                  -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                  -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                  Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                  favicon

                                  Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                  The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                  must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                  Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #85

                                  @briankrebs Just more reasons why I won't be travelling to the United States anytime soon.

                                  Way to go, Trump. Way to kill the economic benefits tourism brings to your country.

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    @briankrebs

                                    I'm British, white, male, aged 60-ish.

                                    Prior to February 2016 I typically visited the USA 3 times a year for up to six weeks.

                                    Since February 2016 I have visited the USA twice in a decade, for a total of 10 days.

                                    Entering the USA as a foreigner, with a Republican POTUS in the White House, *never* felt safe, but under Trump it looks diabolically dangerous. (And to a glance I resemble "one of them": I'm not female or dark-skinned.)

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #86

                                    @cstross @briankrebs

                                    When I go to visit my Canadian in laws I can see the Olympic Peninsula and Mount Baker across the Juan de Fuca Straight. That's plenty close enough for me.

                                    After what I called The Orange Emperor on his racist friend's hellsite they won't let me in anyway.

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                      favicon

                                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #87

                                      @briankrebs In summary, if this change goes into effect, when leaving the US, don't plan on coming back.

                                      #totalitariannism #US #censorship

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                                      • Gero SteinT Gero Stein

                                        @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Exactly. Just because the government of one country turns fascist does not mean that we, as Europeans, should abandon our core values, such as those enshrined in the European Charter of Fundamental Rights.

                                        If our European values are to be more than a paper exercise, we must be prepared to uphold them.

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #88

                                        @tdr @independentpen @arrakeen_urbanite @briankrebs Also, tourism is an export product. If they want to sabotage their export to us, that doesn't force us to do an equally dumb thing in reverse.

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          I feel for anyone in the travel, tourism and hospitality industries, which make up ~ 10M jobs and ~ 3 percent of the nation's GDP. From the U.S. International Trade Administration (trade.gov)

                                          "Inbound international travel to the United States plays a vital role in the Nation’s economy and promotes cultural exchange and understanding. Travel and tourism is the largest single services export for the United States, accounting for 22 percent of the country’s services exports and 7 percent of all exports in 2023. The travel and tourism industry contributed $2.3 trillion to the U.S. economy in 2022 (2.97 percent of the country’s GDP), supporting 9.5 million jobs."

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #89

                                          @briankrebs Cancel the World Cup.

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