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Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud.

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  • Lorenzo BonomelliL Lorenzo Bonomelli

    @terminaltilt
    Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
    Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

    I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
    1) my data is properly encrypted
    2) my data stays on a European server
    3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
    4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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    shadows
    wrote last edited by
    #39

    @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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    • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

      Reject this future.

      Keep your hardware local.

      Run #Linux.

      Own your data.

      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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      wrote last edited by
      #40

      @terminaltilt They are closing in: Big Tech is on the prowl of ALL of your data. And flooding the internet with all their AI infested cloudware, they can respond with ever so heavily manipulated lies and bogus selling it to you as facts and truth, regardless whatever you were searching for on that web. That fake reality will warp anything more strongly than a supermassive black hole.

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      • S shadows

        @LorenzoBonomelli @terminaltilt will you still like it if they pass laws that enforce on-device scanning of all data on the internet?

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        #41

        @shadows @terminaltilt

        Well, I'm not an IT expert, so I'm not sure I got what you said to me πŸ˜…

        Isn’t data encryption on servers enough to keep my files reasonably safe from everyone, including the hosting company?

        If the system were FOSS, could a law force the provider to insert a decryption backdoor without the user knowing?

        In short terms: is on-device scanning for such systems technologically feasible?

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        • Lorenzo BonomelliL Lorenzo Bonomelli

          @terminaltilt
          Honestly, I really like cloud computing and cloud storage.
          Since we’re almost always connected to the internet, it’s an incredibly useful solution.

          I'd be happy to pay a subscription fee if:
          1) my data is properly encrypted
          2) my data stays on a European server
          3) my money doesn't go to a dictatorship country (such as where Bezos lives)
          4) the system I'm using is FOSS

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          wrote last edited by
          #42

          @LorenzoBonomelli
          But someone else defines issues 1) thru 4) for you. They own your data then. Your data is on THEIR computer.
          @terminaltilt

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          • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

            Reject this future.

            Keep your hardware local.

            Run #Linux.

            Own your data.

            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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            wrote last edited by
            #43

            @terminaltilt and then as I've just found with FB, if you become persona non grata they can just erase your entire existence really easily. Easier to control citizens if their data is on servers they don't control.

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            • Nicovel0 πŸ‰N Nicovel0 πŸ‰

              @terminaltilt those people have no new ideas, Bezos just reinvented the mainframe.

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              wrote last edited by
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              @Nicovel0 HIS mainframe, YOUR data. Pictures of your kids, stored digital receipts of stuff you bought, a photographed confession of that remote uncle who came out in 1944, then snatched by the Nazis, you being confronted with secret messages from your spouse to her co-worker, your pictures where you wear girl's clothes and make-up. Regardless how anyone reacts to them, you truly don't want anyone to google around your data.
              @terminaltilt

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              • AndrΓ© OurednikA AndrΓ© Ourednik

                @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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                #45

                @andre_ourednik That's not what Bezos means. He wants YOUR data on HIS centralized 'mainframe'.
                @terminaltilt

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                • TrimTab πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦T TrimTab πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                  @terminaltilt Bezos is the alternate universe inverse evil version of Patrick Stewart.... Utterly cruel, greedy, narcissistic, and uncharismatic.

                  Please send Bezos back into the worm hole, to the shitty universe that made him.

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                  @TrimTab @terminaltilt Do you imply that Bezos's mother had worms when he was born?

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                  • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                    Reject this future.

                    Keep your hardware local.

                    Run #Linux.

                    Own your data.

                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                    Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                    A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #47

                    @terminaltilt I'm not saying you're wrong, but how can they be both wanting to kill local confusing and pushing "AI pcs" that can perform AI calculations locally at the same time?

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                    • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                      Reject this future.

                      Keep your hardware local.

                      Run #Linux.

                      Own your data.

                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                      Link Preview Image
                      Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                      A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

                      favicon

                      Windows Central (www.windowscentral.com)

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #48

                      @terminaltilt

                      Meine Daten auf meine Festplatte, und das seit ich einen PC habe

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                      • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                        Reject this future.

                        Keep your hardware local.

                        Run #Linux.

                        Own your data.

                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

                        Link Preview Image
                        Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                        A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

                        favicon

                        Windows Central (www.windowscentral.com)

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #49

                        @terminaltilt The internet shifted power to the edges, then it all got sucked back into the centre again.

                        Screw that. The mechanisms to DIY the future still exist. Always have.

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                        • AndrΓ© OurednikA AndrΓ© Ourednik

                          @terminaltilt As much as I abhore anything that Jeff does and represents, I see an environmental point in a rental model. In the sense that ownership of hardware in a programmed obsolescence industry model is ecologically worse. Most people run their daily apps on massively overpowered individual machines, produced at huge environmental cost. And I see potential in sharing hardware here. But definitely not on AWS. Rather local hubs, something like a decentralized network of remote processors

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #50

                          @andre_ourednik @terminaltilt IIRC, there were multiple studies on game streaming which came to the conclusion that even with a thin client, streaming consumes more energy and resources. A local gaming PC is a self-contained device. Streaming not only requires powerful data centres, but also robust infrastructure between your local device and the data centre. Furthermore, thin clients are more prone to be replaced every few years due to non-replaceable batteries and a lack of software updates.

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                          • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                            Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                            You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                            AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                            Reject this future.

                            Keep your hardware local.

                            Run #Linux.

                            Own your data.

                            The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                            #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                            Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                            A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                            Soozcat
                            wrote last edited by
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                            @terminaltilt

                            Dear Jeff,

                            And I mean this most sincerely,

                            πŸ–• πŸ–•

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                            • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                              Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                              You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                              AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                              Reject this future.

                              Keep your hardware local.

                              Run #Linux.

                              Own your data.

                              The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                              #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                              Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                              A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                              @terminaltilt as long as bezos and his ilk (as in, unconstrained billionaires) exists they will not stop dreaming up ways to consolidate power and corrupts what should notionally be community resources. Mitigate the problem at the source.

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                              • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                                Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                Reject this future.

                                Keep your hardware local.

                                Run #Linux.

                                Own your data.

                                The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                                Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                                A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                                BoloMKXXVIII
                                wrote last edited by
                                #53

                                @terminaltilt I feel much better about hording old computers now. When I say old, I mean around 6th gen Core i5 vintage. Amazing what these machines can do with the right Linux distro.

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                                • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                                  Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                  You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                  AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                  Reject this future.

                                  Keep your hardware local.

                                  Run #Linux.

                                  Own your data.

                                  The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                  #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                                  Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                                  A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                                  @terminaltilt
                                  So many books to read (not from Amazon) may replace the need for any computers if this rental scheme comes to pass.

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                                  • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                                    Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                    You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                    AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                    Reject this future.

                                    Keep your hardware local.

                                    Run #Linux.

                                    Own your data.

                                    The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                    #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                                    Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                                    A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                                    wrote last edited by
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                                    @terminaltilt This is so infuriating. I am so happy that I finally decided to swith full time to Linux like 3 months ago. The thing that kept my under the microsoft thumb was a few softwares I used for work. I spent some time finding alternatives and adjusted my workflow. So worth the time and effort.

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                                    • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                                      Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                      You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                      AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                      Reject this future.

                                      Keep your hardware local.

                                      Run #Linux.

                                      Own your data.

                                      The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                      #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                                      Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                                      A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                                      kosatque
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                                      @terminaltilt This Jeff Bezos quote is like 10 yr old
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                                      • Terminal TiltT Terminal Tilt

                                        Jeff Bezos is saying the quiet part out loud. They want to kill local computing.

                                        You will own nothing and be happy. You will rent your computing power from the cloud. You pay a subscription for the privilege of using a computer.

                                        AI demand is artificially spiking DRAM prices and Big Tech is pushing "AI PCs," the squeeze is on to force us into a rental model.

                                        Reject this future.

                                        Keep your hardware local.

                                        Run #Linux.

                                        Own your data.

                                        The "cloud" is just a landlord for your data.

                                        #NoAi #FOSS #OpenSource #Privacy #SelfHost #SelfHosting #BigTech #RightToRepair #RAM #Amazon #EatTheRich

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                                        Jeff Bezos said the quiet part out loud β€” hopes that you'll give up your PC to rent one from the cloud

                                        A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

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                                        No Exceptions
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                                        @terminaltilt Rent to not-own

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                                        • filobusF filobus

                                          @terminaltilt and if you really have to go cloud, don't go to them, don't surrender and become their captive

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                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          @filobus @terminaltilt What other options are there? Oracle? Microsoft? If you had to use the cloud, where do you go to avoid the big guns and trump buddies?

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