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Still trying to figure out my website outages.

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  • Ratsnake GamesR Ratsnake Games

    @juergen_hubert `echo "top -b -n 5 > processes.txt" | at 23:15` (without the backticks!)

    You might have to install `at` first (with `apt install at` if you're on Ubuntu) and change the timestamp to 00:15 if your server is running on French time

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    @juergen_hubert Output should look like this:

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    • Ratsnake GamesR Ratsnake Games

      @juergen_hubert Output should look like this:

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      @ratsnakegames

      Thanks! I'll try this on the weekend.

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      • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

        @ratsnakegames

        Thanks! I'll try this on the weekend.

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        @juergen_hubert Remember to check your system time with `date` before, so your job doesn't end up an hour late or early.

        (France is in the same time zone as Germany! Since you mentioned your server was off by one hour, I assume it is running on UTC. Pretty common for Linux servers.)

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        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

          @ruxbat

          I did some scraper analysis last year, and while they are a persistent nuisance, their load tends to vary a lot. The consistency of the time period has led me to suspect that this is an inside problem.

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          @juergen_hubert Yeah, that sounds like a solid conclusion.

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          • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

            @ratsnakegames

            # num@period delay(unused) name script...
            #
            # uncomment to purge files older than 7days in TMP
            #1@daily 0 purgetmp find /srv/data/tmp -type f -mtime +7 -delete > /dev/null

            The cron logs are empty.

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            @juergen_hubert In addition, you should also check the crontab for the user that is running the webserver. E. g. `crontab -u apache -l`, assuming your webserver is running under the user `apache`.

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            • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

              Still trying to figure out my website outages.

              To recap: I have two #MediaWiki wikis and one #WordPress site. And there seems to be _some_ background process which starts soon after 23:00 UTC (or 24:00 in France, where the servers are located) which puts such a strain on the website that I get a lot of "504" errors for a few hours. The exact duration is variable - sometimes it lasts for one or two hours, and sometimes it lasts way into the morning. But I cannot identify what causes it from the Apache logs - there is no clear, consistent trigger to be found there.

              Last time I asked customer support, they suggested that I check my plugins and background processes. But I don't know enough about website administration to know where to look.

              For what it's worth, my WordPress website uses the following plugins (all updated to the latest versions):

              ActivityPub
              Contact Form 7
              Include Mastodon Feed
              JM Twitter Cards
              Leaflet Map
              MC4WP: Mailchimp for WordPress
              TablePress
              WP DSGVO Tools (GDPR)

              The site is here:
              https://sunkencastles.com/

              The extensions on my wiki can be found here:
              https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Special:Version

              Does _anyone_ have any idea what kinds of background processes on MediaWiki or WordPress might cause this kind of outage, and how I could check it?

              #FediHelp

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              @juergen_hubert 504 means that the server in front of mediawiki (the http gateway that handles https encryption for instance) cannot reach mediawiki.
              Is this shared infra, or isolated ?

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              • Derk-Jan 💙💛🇺🇦T Derk-Jan 💙💛🇺🇦

                @juergen_hubert 504 means that the server in front of mediawiki (the http gateway that handles https encryption for instance) cannot reach mediawiki.
                Is this shared infra, or isolated ?

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                @TheDJ

                I am paying gandi.net for hosting VMs.

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                • Ratsnake GamesR Ratsnake Games

                  @juergen_hubert `echo "top -b -n 5 > processes.txt" | at 23:15` (without the backticks!)

                  You might have to install `at` first (with `apt install at` if you're on Ubuntu) and change the timestamp to 00:15 if your server is running on French time

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                  @ratsnakegames

                  Unfortunately, it seems I don't have the permissions to install at.

                  Maybe I'll bother customer service again.

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                  • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                    @ratsnakegames

                    Unfortunately, it seems I don't have the permissions to install at.

                    Maybe I'll bother customer service again.

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                    @juergen_hubert You don't have root access? Does `sudo apt install at` work?

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                    • Ratsnake GamesR Ratsnake Games

                      @juergen_hubert You don't have root access? Does `sudo apt install at` work?

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                      @ratsnakegames

                      Nope, this seems to be restricted by the hosting provider.

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