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      I can’t imagine too many scenarios where allowing someone who is wielding a one-handed (or versatile) weapon and nothing in the off hand to have a bonus action unarmed strike to be game-breaking. Seems like an easy call to me.

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        aeronmelon@lemmy.world
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        Anytime a show or movie shows a sword fight where someone also gets punched in the face is just good choriography.

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        • owenfromcanada@lemmy.caO owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca

          I can’t imagine too many scenarios where allowing someone who is wielding a one-handed (or versatile) weapon and nothing in the off hand to have a bonus action unarmed strike to be game-breaking. Seems like an easy call to me.

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          Yeah, especially when one is likely much more powerful than the other. If you are a monk with a sword you are wasting your time. If you are a Warrior* with a free hand you are wasting your time.

          *Sorry, that should have been Fighter, I’m sick, and I’ve been reading too many variant rulesets while I’m sitting at home.

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          • owenfromcanada@lemmy.caO owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca

            I can’t imagine too many scenarios where allowing someone who is wielding a one-handed (or versatile) weapon and nothing in the off hand to have a bonus action unarmed strike to be game-breaking. Seems like an easy call to me.

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            twiddletwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            So we’re just giving out bonus actions now? /s

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              Anytime a show or movie shows a sword fight where someone also gets punched in the face is just good choriography.

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              canonical_warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Also somewhat historically accurate. Ye olde sword fighting was basically just brawling with blades.

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                What’s hilarious to me is that you’d have to have a mod to make this work effectively in bg3. Or at least multiclass into monk, which makes little sense when you confused consider that fighters are kinda known for tactics like that, and there’s a lomg standing tradition of punching a motherfucker when a weapon attack fails, or even using a weapon attack to set up a punch (or kick) in many martial arts that have a weapon focus

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                  Tell me how the grass tastes, little man!

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                    ghostie@lemmy.zip
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                    When I DM I have a consistent house rule that if you have the ability to do a bonus action, you can do a strike with an unarmed off hand if you are adjacent to an enemy regardless of class. If it connects it does 1d4 bludgeoning and has a chance to knock a medium or smaller enemy prone if the player wins a strength contest. Nat 20 achieves both the connecting of the hit and the prone.

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                    • southsamuraiS southsamurai

                      What’s hilarious to me is that you’d have to have a mod to make this work effectively in bg3. Or at least multiclass into monk, which makes little sense when you confused consider that fighters are kinda known for tactics like that, and there’s a lomg standing tradition of punching a motherfucker when a weapon attack fails, or even using a weapon attack to set up a punch (or kick) in many martial arts that have a weapon focus

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                      dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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                      Martial arts? Like monks are trained in?

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                        jtrek@startrek.website
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                        DND is a weird mix of too many rules and not enough rules.

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                          Martial arts? Like monks are trained in?

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                          I didn’t write things in a good way.

                          Yes, like monks are trained in, but more like real world monks that are martial artists.

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                            When I DM I have a consistent house rule that if you have the ability to do a bonus action, you can do a strike with an unarmed off hand if you are adjacent to an enemy regardless of class. If it connects it does 1d4 bludgeoning and has a chance to knock a medium or smaller enemy prone if the player wins a strength contest. Nat 20 achieves both the connecting of the hit and the prone.

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                            “Also, f*ck monks.”

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                              “Also, f*ck monks.”

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                              ghostie@lemmy.zip
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                              I like when my monk players take 15 minutes to decide what to do only to end up punching a bunch of times and end their turn.

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                                When I DM I have a consistent house rule that if you have the ability to do a bonus action, you can do a strike with an unarmed off hand if you are adjacent to an enemy regardless of class. If it connects it does 1d4 bludgeoning and has a chance to knock a medium or smaller enemy prone if the player wins a strength contest. Nat 20 achieves both the connecting of the hit and the prone.

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                                theminions@lemmy.world
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                                I’d allow this but, I’d let it just be the flat Str score of an attack.

                                Monks get to have their unarmed strike to be special.

                                The prone stuff seems a bit OP. I’d make it a part of Crusher instead.

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                                • G ghostie@lemmy.zip

                                  I like when my monk players take 15 minutes to decide what to do only to end up punching a bunch of times and end their turn.

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                                  …most folks don’t like that…

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                                    I’d allow this but, I’d let it just be the flat Str score of an attack.

                                    Monks get to have their unarmed strike to be special.

                                    The prone stuff seems a bit OP. I’d make it a part of Crusher instead.

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                                    ghostie@lemmy.zip
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                                    It usually works out fine. Plus sometimes the potential of just getting a 1d4 out of it doesn’t seem worth it to waste a bonus action, especially at higher level encounters. I have other house rules that also incentivize other options too. But I’ve been blessed with players that like to keep things interesting and inventive for the fun of it rather than just cheese everything they can.

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                                      weird… am I the only one who grew up w/ ‘dual wielding is two weapons of the same kind’ table rule? hence, the dual label…

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                                        weird… am I the only one who grew up w/ ‘dual wielding is two weapons of the same kind’ table rule? hence, the dual label…

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                                        rants_unnecessarily
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                                        DW in real life means that you have two weapons, of any kind. It literally means that you are wielding two. Not a pair.

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                                        • G ghostie@lemmy.zip

                                          I like when my monk players take 15 minutes to decide what to do only to end up punching a bunch of times and end their turn.

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                                          susaga@sh.itjust.works
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                                          I think that has less to do with monks and more to do with your players.

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