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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent.

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  • The Silicon SorceressS The Silicon Sorceress

    @wesdym When I see someone talking about elections or impeachment as a useful tool it tells me that they do not understand the scope of the problem.

    That's not cynicism.

    Impeachment failed twice because the republican party won't voluntarily give up power. The mid-terms only have power if elections are free, fair and binding.

    You can hope for those things, but hope is not a plan.

    Today the only viable tool for a peaceful resolution the crisis is economically disruptive direct action.

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    @simagick
    Yeah. "Cynical". Riiight.
    Talk about killing the bearer of bad news.
    🤦‍♂️ jfc

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    • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

      Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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      @theleftistlawyer police are the worst vigilantes.

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      • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

        Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

        Recovery Queen CarolynR This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #43

        @theleftistlawyer Exactly!!

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        • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

          Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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          @theleftistlawyer what's the count?

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          • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

            @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer no, they are right - despite seeing the video the officer is "accused" of murder. There aren't exceptions to this. Not for ICE, not for pedophiles, immigrants or anything.

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            @joe I think we agree on that, but I don't understand why you put the "no" there. It doesn't contradict anything I said, does it?

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            • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

              @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer no, they are right - despite seeing the video the officer is "accused" of murder. There aren't exceptions to this. Not for ICE, not for pedophiles, immigrants or anything.

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              @joe @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer for reference https://mstdn.social/@_L1vY_/115862935587928158

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              • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                @ariaflame @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                "Everything is ultimately peculiar and ultimately ridiculous."
                - Thomas Ligotti

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                @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer That doesn't address my comment. Did you vote last election? Are you acting to improve things? Or are you just giving up and trying to make others despair?

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                • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                  Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                  @theleftistlawyer

                  Make that _unless_ proven guilty.

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                  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                    @theleftistlawyer and even with a proper court ruling, most countries and US states abolished the death penalty.

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                    • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                      Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                      @theleftistlawyer
                      👏👏👏👍👍

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                      • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                        Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                        @theleftistlawyer true. mexican courts did indeed convict them of rape, drug, and firearm offences. gotta love those mexican courts doing their job. BTW, remember when cartels had absolute control and courts were powerless? i certainly remember. i also remember colombia during the 90s. glad we have moved into an era of relative law and order.

                        also, psychopath squads in sudan, currently machine-gunning civilians, just like cartels used to do in mexico. funny how that's not a priority.

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                        • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                          Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                          @theleftistlawyer what about convicts and suspects on the run? Are they innocent?

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                          • AriaflameA Ariaflame

                            @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer That doesn't address my comment. Did you vote last election? Are you acting to improve things? Or are you just giving up and trying to make others despair?

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                            @ariaflame @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                            I am Canadian. I voted in my last election. YOUR president (are you American? If yes, then yes he is YOUR president) Wants to make my country your 51st state. I am not interested in playing pretend. Hope is not a plan. Please understand I pray I'm wrong. I really do. But naivete is dangerous. I'm sorry you find the truth depressing. So do I. If this explanation is not enough, your block button is right there. I suggest using it.

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                            • ⁂iwein⁂I ⁂iwein⁂

                              @joe @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer for reference https://mstdn.social/@_L1vY_/115862935587928158

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                              @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer lol wow you’re accusing me of being one of them because of what you said, there’s a difference? That’s pretty low, go ahead do what maga does, say the law is clear for one side only.

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                              • ⁂iwein⁂I ⁂iwein⁂

                                @joe I think we agree on that, but I don't understand why you put the "no" there. It doesn't contradict anything I said, does it?

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                                @iwein you’re trying to say I’m pro ICE now. This is pointless.

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                                • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

                                  @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer lol wow you’re accusing me of being one of them because of what you said, there’s a difference? That’s pretty low, go ahead do what maga does, say the law is clear for one side only.

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                                  @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer I didn’t say defamation or anything, you’re really out of line here. I was just saying the presumption of innocence applies to all or it doesn’t apply at all. We disagreed so you said I’m defending ICE, you invoked Rittenhouse? I didn’t defend anyone or pass judgements in any way. This is disgraceful.

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                                  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                    @theleftistlawyer

                                    True, and often forgotten. But a victim needn't be innocent to have the right to be free from being targeted and murdered on American streets by masked gunmen, who have the president and his cabinet behind them.

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                                    • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

                                      @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer I didn’t say defamation or anything, you’re really out of line here. I was just saying the presumption of innocence applies to all or it doesn’t apply at all. We disagreed so you said I’m defending ICE, you invoked Rittenhouse? I didn’t defend anyone or pass judgements in any way. This is disgraceful.

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                                      @joe @iwein @theleftistlawyer This is why I didn't reply. Thanks for trying though.

                                      When JD starts calling liberals slanderers for this we can both get a giggle out of it--then we can cry because we know why we're fucked.

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                                      • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                                        @theleftistlawyer
                                        Yes. This is what the law says.

                                        Of course, the law also says no one is above the law.

                                        That all ended on July 1st 2024 when the Supreme Court of the United States granted one man total immunity from prosecution. A man who could then, in turn, pardon anyone he feels like.

                                        The American Constitution cannot exist side by side with one man who stands above it all...
                                        ...Like A King.

                                        ☠️ 🇺🇸 ☠️

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                                        @clintruin @theleftistlawyer
                                        That's two different problems.

                                        Not being held to the law, and being able to pardon anyone.

                                        And it's with the position, it applies to whoever happens to the president.

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                                        • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

                                          @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer I didn’t say defamation or anything, you’re really out of line here. I was just saying the presumption of innocence applies to all or it doesn’t apply at all. We disagreed so you said I’m defending ICE, you invoked Rittenhouse? I didn’t defend anyone or pass judgements in any way. This is disgraceful.

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                                          @joe I'm not going to analyze this to death, but it seems to me we agree and you assume I'm accusing you of something incorrectly. Sorry if this was unclear, but this isn't about you at all.

                                          @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer

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