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  • Greg BellF Greg Bell

    @VisualStuart so, hostages

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    @ferrix @VisualStuart

    "Hostages" implies a willingness to trade them for desired things.

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    • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

      What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

      Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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      @VisualStuart honorary immigrants. Just not white enough to count as American.

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      • FediThing 🏳️‍🌈F FediThing 🏳️‍🌈

        @VisualStuart

        😡

        ICE are openly admitting it isn't about "immigration", it's all about white supremacy.

        White Supremacy Enforcement would be a more accurate name.

        Where the F are they going to "deport" Native Americans to?

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        @FediThing @VisualStuart ICE Indiscriminate Caucasian Exterminators?

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        • ElsaE Elsa

          @nielso @VisualStuart and this times require humans that stand up for the ones who cant defend themselves. I somehow miss them in the Land of the brave. Pls correct me if wrong.

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          @elsa @nielso @VisualStuart Cambodians should stand up and defend Americans as a thank you for the megatons of illegal bombs thrown on top of their heads in the illegal, secret, congress-unapproved war against a country there was no declaration of war against, called Operation Menu.

          Defend those who deliberately, willingly, knowingly and intentionally voted for a known authoritarian.

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          • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

            @angeldruckt Tribal members are Native Americans, however the term tribal members in this case also indicates that they are registered members of a federally recognized tribe.

            By contrast, the Chinook of the Pacific Northwest are not a federally recognized tribe which denies Chinook members access to federal healthcare, housing, and education benefits.

            https://chinooknation.org/recognition/

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            @VisualStuart @angeldruckt I feel

            e x t r e m e l y ​ ​ s t r o n g ​ ​ c o n t e m p t

            towards the US regime when I am reading that "Chinook of the Pacific Northwest are not a federally recognized tribe which denies Chinook members access to federal healthcare, housing, and education benefits."

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            • samiamsamS samiamsam

              @VisualStuart

              Native Americans ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS

              OMFG

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              @samiamsam @VisualStuart non-native Americans are immigrants.

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              • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                @VisualStuart

                ICE is voter suppression.

                Trump's corrupt GOP did the same thing during his 1st regime, mess with tribal ID used for voting.
                https://www.kwtx.com/2026/01/12/tribe-says-it-believes-ice-is-targeting-indigenous-people-across-country/

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                @Npars01 @VisualStuart In Czech Republic, European Union🇪🇺 many people came with a legal electronic ID and were denied voting.

                #DigitalitarianDigitatorship #DigitalitníDigitatura #czech #czechrepublic #votersuppression #elections

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                • Magnus AhltorpA Magnus Ahltorp

                  @huntingdon @VisualStuart ICE has any power they take for themselves until someone actually stops them. And juridical methods don’t count at ”stopping” unless there is actual enforcement.

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                  @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                  • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                    @VisualStuart @angeldruckt I feel

                    e x t r e m e l y ​ ​ s t r o n g ​ ​ c o n t e m p t

                    towards the US regime when I am reading that "Chinook of the Pacific Northwest are not a federally recognized tribe which denies Chinook members access to federal healthcare, housing, and education benefits."

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                    @clock @angeldruckt Read their description of this at the link I included. Sickening.

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                    • Isaac Ji KuoI Isaac Ji Kuo

                      @roknrol @fella @dmayhood @VisualStuart Oh, they'll enforce any law, it's WHO they enforce laws upon that is very selective.

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                      @isaackuo @roknrol @fella @dmayhood @VisualStuart sounds ilke dereliction of duty or corruption to me.

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                      • huntingdonH huntingdon

                        @VisualStuart

                        I presume habeas corpus petitions will be filed shortly, to find out where and on what basis ICE is detaining three US citizen Oglala Sioux.

                        ICE's has very limited police powers. They are restricted to immigration enforcement. They have no authority to make random stops, to detain generally, or to enter into any private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge.

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                        @huntingdon

                        This may sound nice on paper, though in reality ICE has shot over a dozen people and killed at least 9 in the last physical year. All of them are citizens by the way. There has been no repercussions on the ICE officers involved in the use of force incidents.

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                        • Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:M Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:

                          @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart Referring to ICE as the Gestapo might imply that they are shrewd political operators, but this group of thugs is much closer to a classic American lynch mob.

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                          @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart They certainly have aspirations of Gestapo though. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/21-secret-ice-programs-revealed

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                          • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                            What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                            Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                            @VisualStuart
                            Everything is mafia-style coercion with these goons.

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                            • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                              What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                              Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                              Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                              The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                              @VisualStuart Was there some part of "sovereign nation" they failed to understand?

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                              • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                                @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Probably depends on which judge you end up standing in front of, assuming you survive the interaction.

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                                • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                  @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                                  @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen "can" do anything they want with that legally owned stopping power. ICE "can" do anything they want with theirs, and now they have justification beyond "she was in a car near me."

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                                  • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                    @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                                    @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Depends (See Figure 1).

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                                    • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                      What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                      Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                      Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                      The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                      @VisualStuart Ah, cool, okay. Kidnapping and bartering. Hostage situation. Human trafficking, if you will.

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                                      • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                        @Npars01 @VisualStuart In Czech Republic, European Union🇪🇺 many people came with a legal electronic ID and were denied voting.

                                        #DigitalitarianDigitatorship #DigitalitníDigitatura #czech #czechrepublic #votersuppression #elections

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                                        @clock @VisualStuart

                                        Digital ID is how billionaires take control of power & keep their corruption.

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                                        • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                          @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                                          @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen's next of kin may argue this in court. The argument has merit.

                                          That citizen will still be dead, however.

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