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  • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

    @VisualStuart

    ICE is voter suppression.

    Trump's corrupt GOP did the same thing during his 1st regime, mess with tribal ID used for voting.
    https://www.kwtx.com/2026/01/12/tribe-says-it-believes-ice-is-targeting-indigenous-people-across-country/

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    @Npars01 @VisualStuart In Czech Republic, European Union🇪🇺 many people came with a legal electronic ID and were denied voting.

    #DigitalitarianDigitatorship #DigitalitníDigitatura #czech #czechrepublic #votersuppression #elections

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    • Magnus AhltorpA Magnus Ahltorp

      @huntingdon @VisualStuart ICE has any power they take for themselves until someone actually stops them. And juridical methods don’t count at ”stopping” unless there is actual enforcement.

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      @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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      • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

        @VisualStuart @angeldruckt I feel

        e x t r e m e l y ​ ​ s t r o n g ​ ​ c o n t e m p t

        towards the US regime when I am reading that "Chinook of the Pacific Northwest are not a federally recognized tribe which denies Chinook members access to federal healthcare, housing, and education benefits."

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        @clock @angeldruckt Read their description of this at the link I included. Sickening.

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        • Isaac Ji KuoI Isaac Ji Kuo

          @roknrol @fella @dmayhood @VisualStuart Oh, they'll enforce any law, it's WHO they enforce laws upon that is very selective.

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          @isaackuo @roknrol @fella @dmayhood @VisualStuart sounds ilke dereliction of duty or corruption to me.

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          • huntingdonH huntingdon

            @VisualStuart

            I presume habeas corpus petitions will be filed shortly, to find out where and on what basis ICE is detaining three US citizen Oglala Sioux.

            ICE's has very limited police powers. They are restricted to immigration enforcement. They have no authority to make random stops, to detain generally, or to enter into any private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge.

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            @huntingdon

            This may sound nice on paper, though in reality ICE has shot over a dozen people and killed at least 9 in the last physical year. All of them are citizens by the way. There has been no repercussions on the ICE officers involved in the use of force incidents.

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            • Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:M Mike McCaffrey :pdx_badge:

              @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart Referring to ICE as the Gestapo might imply that they are shrewd political operators, but this group of thugs is much closer to a classic American lynch mob.

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              @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart They certainly have aspirations of Gestapo though. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/21-secret-ice-programs-revealed

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              • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                @VisualStuart
                Everything is mafia-style coercion with these goons.

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                • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                  What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                  Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                  Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

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                  @VisualStuart Was there some part of "sovereign nation" they failed to understand?

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                  • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                    @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                    @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Probably depends on which judge you end up standing in front of, assuming you survive the interaction.

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                    • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                      @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                      @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen "can" do anything they want with that legally owned stopping power. ICE "can" do anything they want with theirs, and now they have justification beyond "she was in a car near me."

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                      • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                        @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                        @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Depends (See Figure 1).

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                        • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                          What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                          Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                          @VisualStuart Ah, cool, okay. Kidnapping and bartering. Hostage situation. Human trafficking, if you will.

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                          • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                            @Npars01 @VisualStuart In Czech Republic, European Union🇪🇺 many people came with a legal electronic ID and were denied voting.

                            #DigitalitarianDigitatorship #DigitalitníDigitatura #czech #czechrepublic #votersuppression #elections

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                            @clock @VisualStuart

                            Digital ID is how billionaires take control of power & keep their corruption.

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                            • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                              @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart Can a citizen use a legally owned stopping power in castle doctrine or stand my ground doctrine against an ICE agent which illegally enters private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge?

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                              @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen's next of kin may argue this in court. The argument has merit.

                              That citizen will still be dead, however.

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                              • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                @VisualStuart time for boys to mount up and surround the wagons.

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                                • Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱

                                  @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen's next of kin may argue this in court. The argument has merit.

                                  That citizen will still be dead, however.

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                                  @grumble209 @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart

                                  You can't know that the citizen will be dead.

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                                  • Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱

                                    @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart A citizen's next of kin may argue this in court. The argument has merit.

                                    That citizen will still be dead, however.

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                                    @grumble209 @clock @huntingdon Yep, that’s the thing. ”Legality” is totally out the window regarding any ICE behaviour, they just do as they please and everyone else suffers the consequences.

                                    Legality is only relevant with enforcement behind it, and enforcement is based on human networks, it’s not some abstract thing. To quote Foucault: ”[…] the State can only operate on the basis of other, already existing power structures”.

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                                    • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                      @grumble209 @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart

                                      You can't know that the citizen will be dead.

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                                      @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart It's a safe bet that if you raise a gun to ICE, they won't stop shooting until you are dead. But even if you somehow survive, you will still be arrested and you will die in custody. This is America's new reality, and it has nothing at all to do with noble laws in dusty books.

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                                      • Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱G Grumble 🇺🇸 🇺🇦 🇬🇱

                                        @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart It's a safe bet that if you raise a gun to ICE, they won't stop shooting until you are dead. But even if you somehow survive, you will still be arrested and you will die in custody. This is America's new reality, and it has nothing at all to do with noble laws in dusty books.

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                                        @grumble209 @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart your claim doesn't contain any actual reference.

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                                        • Karel 'Clock' K.C Karel 'Clock' K.

                                          @grumble209 @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart your claim doesn't contain any actual reference.

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                                          @clock @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart May your memory be a blessing.

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