Fucking shoot me then

Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

US interest in Greenland has 0 to do with resources (which are extremely expensive to develop and far away from markets) and everything to do with replacing NATO military bases with US bases in order to directly threaten Europe more effectively.

The collective cowardice of the colonies divided by US attacks on their economies, and coercive miltiary equipment tribute demands, and cheerleading for Venezuela takeover, and other recent blatant election interference in Latin America (Bolivia, Honduras, Argentina, Brazil) means there are no lines in the sand. No one will come to Greenland or Canada’s defense, because the cowardice that responds to US aggression against its colonies is to devote tributes in order to fight Russia alone.

There are CIA allegiants on lemmy who setup a US invasion of Greenland as a US ploy to donate all of its resources to Russia, which means just more increased Russophobia as a response and more devotion to the US to help with Napoleonic fantasies on fighting Russia.

The line in the sand on Canada’s/Europe’s military cooperation with the US should have been drawn at tariffs. For Canada, fentanyl excuse for tariffs is accepting a categorical lie, just as the pretext for kidnapping Maduro.

Vladimir Liberal

And do what? Send the First Mounted Pellet Rifle brigade down there?

Some. I doubt most will.

In this hypothetical scenario, maybe you could just renounce your citizenship (and stop paying taxes to the US).

In all cases, retaliation against a fascist regime will destroy lives, but it’s generally the better option. I mean people suggest to stop trading with the US or crash their economy, this is not victimless either.

It needs to happen regardless, but no, we are worse off than they were. There are a lot more ways to track people, which is one major negative. Back then there weren’t a system designed to prevent and punish striking. Now there is. If it ends up happening at the scale that’s needed to make a difference then there will be fights against private militias and the government again.

I don’t think the average republican is capable in a fight, but I do think they fantasize about ethnic cleansing.

Will nobody rid this poor planet of Stephen Miller?

I didnt know that Morea was under a cult of personality, though I guess that did apply to some of the Marble Emperor’s in Constantinople with some of the remnants of the Imperial Cult.

Yes I know you meant the Norks.

Hey bud I’ve gone back over our past correspondence, and I’m now feeling less hostile. I feel as if you and I are on the same team but perhaps with a different view of what needs to be done. Is this accurate? Is it worth having a good faith dialogue?

Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

And you really think they are the ones fighting?

They remove social services and the only out for poor people is the army.

Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

Miller is this administration’s Himmler.

That is not the current situation.

The comment above did not say let’s focus the next 10 years to build a software stack that does not depend on US software. It said let’s immediately stop importing stuff from the US. That is not something you can in a moment substitute without massive disruption.

Computer parts are made in China and Taiwan mostly, sure. But: AMD is American, intel is American, Nvidia is American. Go build a computer without using parts coming from one of these companies.

This isn’t going to happen as there isn’t a contingent of deeply evil Greenlander exiles in South Florida running the US from Mar-a-Lago, unlike Cuba and Venezuela, whose rightfully exiled upper class now rule what of our foreign policy the Israelis don’t.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

• Martin Niemöller

Attacking communists is the first step. That’s where the line needs to be drawn. Not an inch to fascism.

I’m not sure about this. They’ve got a more than capable military.

But I’m willing to find out where their limit is. Militarily, I suspect it starts at a protracted war of attrition with a determined enemy that looks exactly like them and who pops in and out of unassailable and impassable northern boreal forests and muskeg swamps. Or hides in plain sight in the middle of Toronto. Or hops over the immense border to wreak havoc. No one would be safe, ever.

Economically, I think cutting off hydro, oil and potash would have an enormous effect on their comfort level. For lasting damage, nationalize all strategic resources and seize assets and companies. Raze them if threatened, starting with US assets. Nationalize all IP and patents. Sell all US government debt and send the interest rates sky high.

The weakness the US has is that they are doing this for more power and a comfortable life. They AIM to survive it. Frankly at a certain point I don’t care about that. Our fight is existential, and we have given up on a vision of life after. What matters at that point is the here and now, and that’s it.

The comment said nothing about the ban having to be this instant. They said to stop all trade. That could just as well mean, take the necessary steps to stop all trade as feasibly fast as possible. How long do you think it would take for China to be able to export computer hardware directly to the EU if the EU said tomorrow “As soon as you can supply hardware, we will stop all trade with USA”? China is the champion of accelerated manufacturing, they’d be supplying us in a couple of months.

There already is open source software solution for by FAR most software that is used. Most companies don’t actually need proprietary software from USA, they can switch very quickly, especially if they get a deadline in a month to switch everything away from Linux, 'cause then the profits are on the line.